WHAT? I just don't get the newest addition to the Conspiracy.
Cramer's response to Philippe's post leaves a lot to be desired:
First, he ought to ask Justice Scalia about the problems ascertaining original intent.
Second, his response to the "unappetizing conclusions" point is wholly inadequate. Cookbook 14th Amendment law (the same subsequent amendment that renders the founders' views on race relations "moot") tells us that the rights which the founders announced in the Bill of Rights as against federal power now apply against the states. Applying this to the First Amendment, as originally understood, would lead to chaos. The First Amendment was meant to protect state-sponsored churches against the possibility of a national-sponsored church. It clearly means "hands off" religious practices and "no compulsion" for religion. How can we apply that to the states in any coherent manner without abandoning its original purposes?
Third, it's worth noting that even Supreme Court justices who otherwise appear to be sympathetic to Cramer's views (as to the application of "original intent" and as to whether "God" in the pledge is constitutional) must retreat to ceremonial deism. They would get laughed out of conference if they offered a string of quotes from founders.
Finally, on an unrelated note, I thought Cramer's post on comparative risks of death was disgusting. In order to "prove" his "courage," Cramer took the death rate for the least costly (in terms of human lives) major war we have ever fought. Before he breaks his arm patting himself on the back, he ought to consider what our servicemen in World Wars I and II, Korea and Vietnam faced.
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Cramer's response to Philippe's post leaves a lot to be desired:
First, he ought to ask Justice Scalia about the problems ascertaining original intent.
Second, his response to the "unappetizing conclusions" point is wholly inadequate. Cookbook 14th Amendment law (the same subsequent amendment that renders the founders' views on race relations "moot") tells us that the rights which the founders announced in the Bill of Rights as against federal power now apply against the states. Applying this to the First Amendment, as originally understood, would lead to chaos. The First Amendment was meant to protect state-sponsored churches against the possibility of a national-sponsored church. It clearly means "hands off" religious practices and "no compulsion" for religion. How can we apply that to the states in any coherent manner without abandoning its original purposes?
Third, it's worth noting that even Supreme Court justices who otherwise appear to be sympathetic to Cramer's views (as to the application of "original intent" and as to whether "God" in the pledge is constitutional) must retreat to ceremonial deism. They would get laughed out of conference if they offered a string of quotes from founders.
Finally, on an unrelated note, I thought Cramer's post on comparative risks of death was disgusting. In order to "prove" his "courage," Cramer took the death rate for the least costly (in terms of human lives) major war we have ever fought. Before he breaks his arm patting himself on the back, he ought to consider what our servicemen in World Wars I and II, Korea and Vietnam faced.
Am I wrong? Tell me why: rule11 and then the -at- sign hotmail.com
